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Scammers Leave Morehead City Mom Penniless Save Email Print
Posted: 7:45 AM May 12, 2008
Last Updated: 8:41 AM May 12, 2008
Reporter: Lynette Taylor

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Surfing the web for merchandise is like shopping in the world's largest superstore. For sellers and buyers it can be the easiest way to do business...But for scam artists, it's their playground for ripping you off.

Shawnna Oakes' experience with a scam artist has cost her big time.

"I'm $1500 in the negative right now, plus all the weekly charges just for being in the negative," Oakes says.

Bank fees along with the money she wired to someone she thought she knew began with a simple ad on the internet. She posted an ad on WITN Classifieds for a bed set she was selling. She posted it the item for $1,500. The day after she posted the sale, she heard from a potential buyer, named Smith Powell. Oakes says she talked to him over the phone for a week before they made a deal.

That's when things got, as Oakes says, "fishy." Powell sent her a cashier's check for much more than the $1,500 she had asked for. The check was worth $2,950.

"When I got it, I kind of thought it was fishy because of the overseas address. So I took it back to my bank and asked them to verify it and they told me, it was good. So I cashed it."

Powell said the extra money was supposed to cover shipping fees. Oakes sent that money to the person supposedly handling the shipping, Doren Damien in the United Kingdom. She wired a check for $1,562. Powell then sent another check to Oakes for $1,650. She wasn't why she got that check It was at that time her bank discovered something was wrong with the first check.

"Three days later they called me and told me the check was counterfeit and therefore, i had to pay it back," Oakes said.

Oakes is unemployed and on disability for multiple scerolosis or MS. She's raising three boys--a 12-year-old and one-year-old twins. One of the twins, Max, has a genetic disorder which requires him to be on a feeding tube. With medical supplies needed for her and her son, money is tight. This situation didn't make it better.

Oakes said her bank kept her disability checks to make up for the money she owed, leaving her penniless.

"I got hit not only by the scammer, but by my bank as well," Oakes said.

WITN contacted Oakes' bank, Wood Forest Bank in Morehead City. They declined to comment about this case.

"There are a number of warning signs out there, and we're encouraging banks and credit unions to ask questions," said North Carolina's Attorney General, Roy Cooper. "The key is, they want you to wire them money before that check clears the bank. They know as soon as that check is dishonored you will be left holding the bag."

"I just want to have my money back and let people be aware these scams are getting bigger and better," Oakes said.

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Posted by: jp Location: scotland neck on May 18, 2008 at 08:05 AM
I agree with kip, we need to make wood forest as well as other banks know that we are not going to be penalized for their careless errors and I am willing to go to their website and really put the heat on to give this poor woman her money back.

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Posted by: Kisha Location: Newport on May 14, 2008 at 03:48 PM
Being a single mother making very little money I can completely relate. The bank is at fault and should have to cover all of the costs completely!

Posted by: Christy Location: Morehead City on May 13, 2008 at 11:40 PM
The bank should be the one to pay it back and the fees if it was verified twice. There is no reason they should'nt.

Posted by: USAonly Location: Greenville on May 13, 2008 at 09:24 PM
As soomeone with over 500 feedback on E-bay, and having sold and bought on Craigslist, I refuse to buy from overseas or to sell and ship overseas. The potential for fraud is too great.

Posted by: shawnna Oakes Location: Morehead City on May 13, 2008 at 03:42 PM
I had common sense to have the check verified, I had done business online before, I told the bank why I had a check like that , The bank manager verified the check, I took the check to the bank to have checked, so therefore it was not my fault, When someone takes a check to the bank's manager and has it approved and is told that the check was good, not only was it verified once it was verified twice. Therefore the comment that I should have had the "common sense" to have known better, I was trying to sale a bedroom set. Not only did they verify the check and tell me it was good, they also western union'd the money to the person overseas for me. I thought the check was a scam, THAT IS WHY I HAD IT VERIFIED. I'm not going to defend the bank, and their is alot more to what happened than what was told on this story. This bank was up to no good from the get go, '

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Morehead City on May 13, 2008 at 03:34 PM
Actually what the problem is the federal goverment requires that checks be made available within 3 days of deposit. So the bank has to make the funds available. The real problem is when the banks goes to collect the money from the check writer and realize it is fraudulent. Then they have no choice but to notify the account holder that they are liable for the amount of the check.

Posted by: Mouth Of the Hood Location: Greenville on May 13, 2008 at 02:24 PM
The loss was supposed to be absorbed by the Teller performing that transaction b/c she gave an approval on behalf of the financial institution. The bank should of have took that lost and charged it against the teller's ID and she would of recieved a policy violation for not using check verification or getting a 2nd set of eyes. Banks have preventive rules that are supposed to catch this. Most bank employees are extremely slack with these procedures. But I can't blame the victim she saw a oppurtunity for extra funds in a suffering econonmy. That is totally the bank fault! COMPLETELY!

Posted by: Shawnna Oakes Location: Morehead City on May 13, 2008 at 01:37 PM
I have been reading the posts on here, I just wanted to let the public know that all that we really need are prayers just to make it through this hard time, we have been able to finally be able to catch up on bills and groceries, etc. It has been a tough road for me and my boys, but having MS has taught me to be tough. We don't want to be a bother to the public as far as raising money or anything, that wasn't the my thoughts to this story at all. Of course it would be a big help but we do not want to be a hassle. Like I had said earlier, I do plan to go after this bank, I have a lawyer now, and will fight real hard for all who have been victimized by their banks. what I really need are prayers and support through this. Once again , Thanks to all who have helped out and have posted here on this board.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Morehead City on May 13, 2008 at 01:17 PM
I'm sorry but this is a common scam that has been very weel publicized for about a year now. She should have been suspicious the minute she noticed the overseas address. It's a shame she got scammed but common sense should have told her not to accept the check. Before you start flaming, anyone who checks thier mail or email has come in contact with this kind of scam or something like it. I mean think about it, why would a person pay that much plus shipping fees for a bed set when they could get it in thier home town or country for much less?

Posted by: Joe Stroud Location: morehead city on May 12, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Wood Forest bank is the largest privately held bank in the U.S.. Seems to me that they could have a heart and give this lady her money back. But what do we really expect out of banks? God bless her and i hpoe she does get help.

Posted by: Concerned Location: Eastern NC on May 12, 2008 at 10:04 PM
WITN, I would like to know if some of us would like to get some things like groceries and so on for this family if you would be able to help us in getting it to this family and if so can you get us a list if the foods that they like and anything else that they might need? I am not rich by no means, but I think if we pull together as caring citizens then we can help this lady and her boys out.

Posted by: shawnna Location: Morehead City on May 12, 2008 at 09:33 PM
Was just wanting to say thanks to WITN for this story, since this story aired this morning I have obtained a lawyer. I also wanted to say thanks to all who have posted their opinions on this board. I will continue to keep Lynnette up to date with this case. Thanks to all.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: NC on May 12, 2008 at 09:27 PM
This is a very bad situation. My heart goes out to you. If the bank teller it was good then........I feel they should be responsible for paying her back. Besides me personally Wood Forest is not a good bank. I used to bank with them and they will tell you anything. Keep in mind when you decide to open account. If they haven't been around for 10-20 years or more I would try them out.

Posted by: wandering... Location: Greenville on May 12, 2008 at 08:36 PM
I would like to know if the bank does indeed give this lady her money back plus fees it charged her. I think there should be a lot of people wanting to take their money out of this bank immediately. Please keep us posted as to the outcome WITN.

Posted by: Jesse Location: Winterville on May 12, 2008 at 04:40 PM
I had approx. $3000 stolen from me on eBay and since my town of residence is Winterville I was told I would just have to file a report with my local police department. Well, that was almost 4 years ago and I have not heard one thing from Winterville PD about them investigating this or doing anything. Good work.

Posted by: James Location: Dover on May 12, 2008 at 03:17 PM
You can find more tales like this at Darwin awards.com

Posted by: They tried to get me too Location: Winterville on May 12, 2008 at 02:04 PM
Scammers tried the same thing on me. I had furniture for sale and the scammer sent me way too much money and wanted me to cash the money orders and wire the excess to a 3rd party... way too fishy for me. Also, the guy "buying" my furniture was in Calif. and the money order came from Ohio. I called the money order company and they said the money orders with those serial numbers had already been cashed a month earlier. Also, the date on the money order was prior to when I had even thought about selling the furniture. I looked up the woman in Ohio and she had been getting calls from all over the east coast saying the same thing. She was an elderly lady and no clue why this was going on. The money order company instructed me to turn it into local police. Of course nothing became of it, but I was just relieved that I lost nothing. The scammer did a lot of contact through a service for the hard of hearing, but I talked to him once. His heavy accent was like Middle Eastern or Indi

Posted by: Concerned Location: Eastern NC on May 12, 2008 at 01:38 PM
I feel so sorry for this mother and her kids. If her bank indeed told her that the check was good then they should be the one without not her. It is easier for the bank to write it off as a bad debt than for this mother and her three boys to go without. If I was this mother I would speak with an attorney about the whole situation because if her bank said it was good then they are at fought not her.

Posted by: Norma Location: Virginia Beach on May 12, 2008 at 01:10 PM
My heart goes out to this woman. I too believe the bank should cover it. There is a woman here in Hampton Roads that is out 10K due to a Craig's list car deal gone bad, also overseas! My daughter almost fell into his trap. Thankfully, her father and a friend both tried to contact him to help her with the purchase and we believe that scared him off, two weeks later still no response!

Posted by: ME Location: Washington on May 12, 2008 at 11:46 AM
I used to sell on Ebay and had sense enough to know when a transaction was not right. I never dealt with overseas transactions. Money first - by money order or Paypal - then they get the item. I agree if the bamk said the check was OK then it should fall back on the bank. The bank can check the account that the check was written on to see if funds are available. If the funds were there and the bank gave her the $$$, then the bank is in the hole.

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Posted by: Melissa Location: Pitt County on May 12, 2008 at 10:24 AM
If this woman's bank told her this check was legit and then turned around and cashed it, how can they fault her?? Maybe they need to fault the teller who told her the check was legit and take it out of her paycheck and give this woman her money back.

Posted by: Kris Location: Chocowinity on May 12, 2008 at 08:52 AM
I too was a victim of a scam. Im sorry for the embarrasment this has caused you, and most of all the loss of much needed money. Hold your head, as though money is not everything.

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Posted by: Kip Location: Greenville on May 12, 2008 at 08:42 AM
I have to complain very loudly against Wood Forest Bank, in support of Shawnna Oakes. I am not a lawyer myself, but got an A in basic business law, the concepts of law are very simple in matters like this. US Law does not expect that every US citizen know the fine points, but when a business in a position of more power, and entrusted to know those fine points, takes advantage of that position to shrink in their responsibilities to refuse fault, they are flat wrong in the eyes of the Law, and God. No matter what their excuse, Wood Forest Bank should not have given this woman a penny, until they had processed a suspicious check like this. This cannot be the first suspicious check that they have seen. If Woods Forest Bank refuses to reimburse Shawnna, perhaps they think they can win that in court, and save themselves a few thousand. But if they pick that course, US law also allows ANYONE to make loud public complaints against Wood Forest Bank. A couple points of law here – “slander” and “libel” refer to comments without factual backing, or direct attacks. Thanks to the Internet, those not happy can make a lot of noise within a few minutes, worldwide. If viewers want to help this woman get her money back, and make the statement that we will no longer stand for any bank teller making this excuse, please send an email in support, and any factual personal experiences to help back up you comments. I have worked for 2 banks and have stock in another – if my bank was at fault, happy to see them pay up, even if caused my own stock to drop. Thanks to WITN TV for making a matter like this public. Kip