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Kinston Considering Banning Pit Bulls

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Posted: 9:14 PM May 15, 2008
Last Updated: 9:59 PM May 15, 2008

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Towns and cities all across the united states have banned Pitt Bulls. Now Kinston is considering the same thing.

Kinston Police say they've seen too many Pit Bulls chained behind homes or used to guard against officers as criminals conceal illegal activity. We're told at times, they've had to use deadly force against the dogs when they become too aggressive. Chief Greg Smith says he doesn't want to single out a particular breed, but statistics show these dogs can be dangerous.

Smith says the ban on Pit Bulls will go before city council on Monday, if it goes through, owners would have 90 days to register their Pit Bulls after that, the dogs would not be allowed within city limits.

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Posted by: Kat Location: G-Vegas on May 27, 2008 at 02:54 PM
why would you ban a breed such as pit bulls. what about German shepherds or chows or even those dang ankle biters, every dog can attack and when they do just thank their owners, i own a pit bull and she is my protector and my best friend. i dare some one to take her away from me. its like putting down a human,I treat my pit just like a human being. its a shame when stupid people get together and come up with such an idea, their just cowardly. pits have been used in many fields of work such as therapy dogs, service animals, and police dogs. yes they are a little hard headed but to me they are they only breed of dog i will ever own, plus their the sweetest. ban those little dogs more people get bite by them then any other breed.

Posted by: Craig Location: G-Vegas on May 22, 2008 at 07:00 AM
Diane, you have successfully proven my point again about the breeding of Pitbulls and their owners. It is funny that you state that they are the most decarated K9 of World War 2. 60 million people died in WW2. I bet the pit bull wasn't decorated for peace negotiations. Agin, this is another example of how humans manipulate the breed genetically to be over protective, vicious, and deadly. If you think that Pitbulls were bred to be non-human aggresive; they were not bred to carry the soldiers back packs, it just proves the point that most owners don't have a clue as to the dogs genetics and its purpose. Don't be blind just because you own one. In fact, keep both eyes on that dog.

Posted by: R. Baker Location: Greenville NC on May 22, 2008 at 03:20 AM
As said before ,by a friend who also attended the Kinston City Council meeting, you cry babies sit up here and complain w/ these childish comments , but did not have the courage to face us owners at the meeting. Does'nt matter anyway, because we came so deep you would not have had a seat. We are gonna try to work closely with the city to come to a solution for this problem. Quite a few of us have chosen to adopt the Pit Bulls from Kinstons shelter and find responsible adoptive families for them. While you children are bickering, us adults are trying to find a solution to the problem of irresponsible owners. And to reaffirm what wt said, you'd rather jump on The Incredible Hulk than to try and take my dog. I was just working on a friends car today, who has a 5 year old male Pit (Leroy) from my old bloodlines. He told me his 5 year old daughter saw me on WITN and she went home crying and made her daddy promise he would not let them come take Leroy away and kill him. That's sad!!!

Posted by: Diane Location: Atlanta, Ga on May 21, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Dumb? Not the dogs, but the humans are! The most declarated K-9 in World War II was a Pit Bull. Petey in Spankys Gang was a Pit Bull. I know of many of these dogs that have Tracking titles, Obedience titles, are Therapy Dogs and the list goes on. The Pit Bull is NOT the Problem - it is irresponsible owners - they need to go to Jail. For your information, the so called fighting breeds are the ONLY breeds that were bred to be NON-Human Agressive! So again, look to the people NOT the Breed.

Posted by: Craig Location: G-Vegas on May 21, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Roy, of Siegfried and Roy, use to say that his tigers were the most sweetest and loving animals there were. Now after that sweet tiger nearly killed him I bet he realizes that tigers are not kitty cats. You can take a tiger, bear, snake, or whatever wild animal you desire and raise it from a baby to adult. They still have the instict and the weaponry to kill you. It is there because of genetics and breeding. Not all tigers, bears, snakes, and pit bulls are bad. What they all have is genetics from either selective breeding or thousands of years of survival that equipts then to be mentally unstable. Pitbulls are born with the genetics to be the best fighters. This is because we did it. We fought dogs, we bred the meanest and strongest, and we (humans) did it on purpose.

Posted by: Tiffany Location: MHC on May 21, 2008 at 01:35 AM
The only thing that I have to say to anyone of the people that are one here complaining about pitbulls b or its breed because really need to stop and think, not eveyone wants to have a annoying little ankle biter that defecate and urinate every where, like you people do. Some people like to have a loyal companion or as it goues, "Mans best friend," some people seek companionship with this particular breed. I myself am one of those people. My pitbull is the sweetest thing I can ever imagine. But the funny thing was when I brought her home, my 2 yo beagele was the one who got ansy. I believe that since we live in a free country we have should have the choice of what dogs we get, with out worrying about a ban against ANY particular breed. FYI Did you know that 9 out of 10 smaller breed dogs, tend to be more aggressive that those of a bigger breed? Think about it next time you come across the two.

Posted by: wt on May 20, 2008 at 05:21 PM
Martin County can ban all they want to bot I can assure you, they will not take mine from me.I feel sorry for the people that would come into a yard to take their pet.

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Posted by: pit bull owners Location: allover the state on May 20, 2008 at 04:46 PM
I think many if the comments are childish and I am glad so many pitbull owners showed up at the meeting to support thier dogs.Not one of you cry babies showed up to fight to ban them.Kinston has dropped it right now and it will come back again 30 to 60 days.That gives the pit bull owners more time to ban together why you cry babies sit at home and hide.Yes a child was killed but WAS IT A REAL PIT BULL NO ONE HAS SEEN A PICTURE OF THE DOG.When cops were asked to point out a pit out of 25 dogs they could not do it.Many attcks is not from a pit but from somthing else and people should get knowledge of what a real one is

Posted by: Sarah mac Location: martin county on May 20, 2008 at 03:25 PM
I think it is a great idea..........I wish Martin County would do the same.

Posted by: Craig Location: G-Vegas on May 20, 2008 at 10:15 AM
Lynn, I went to that site. Looks a little fishy. His pitt bulls are so good that he takes donations to train them. "I am attempting to raise funds for a needed training building and "scent wall" for training the dogs. If you believe in what I am doing, please consider donating to this effort. Thank you. Sure buddy. I will send you a donation. All I am saying is ban the breed OR hold animal owners liable. Your pit bull kills a child, you spend the rest of your life in jail.

Posted by: Bandanaman247 on May 20, 2008 at 09:33 AM
Trust me BIGBITE when they come you'll be more then glad to hand them that MUTT. SO GET READY IT"S COMING.and I hope its soon very soon

Posted by: Lynn Location: The Southeast on May 19, 2008 at 09:19 PM
For the person who said APBTs are stupid and not worthy - check this out----> http://www.lawdogsusa.org/home.html

Posted by: A Location: NC on May 19, 2008 at 03:10 PM
Some of you people are a bunch of dumb ********, how is someone going to try and tell you that you have to get rid of your pet. If you are going to ban pits then you have to ban all, b/c all dogs can turn anytime.

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Posted by: Craig Location: G-Vegas on May 19, 2008 at 02:09 PM
Get rid of the Pitbulls. They are too dumb to do any real service to man. All they are known for is dog fighting and killing little children. If they were capable of being trained to track, seeing eye dogs, or anything constructive I would say ok. There is too much instability bred into them to truly be trusted.

Posted by: Susan on May 17, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Did you people forget that a child was killed? Would you still say how nice your family pitbull was if this had been your child or family member? Yes other dogs bite and scratch but the pitbull is known to kill and mane.I own dogs and cats and I love them very much and if i thought they were a danger to anyone I take precautions. A child cannot be replaced but a pet can!Grow-up pet owners and be responsiable for your PETS!

Posted by: bob Location: here on May 17, 2008 at 11:00 PM
this is great news, but i think we should ban these dogs from the entire state. then again lets ban the owners to!

Posted by: Big bite on May 17, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Ban them all you want to. When you come to take mine, the dog will be the least of your worries! He can have whatever is left.

Posted by: Matthew Location: Chocowinity, NC/ MCAS IWAKUNI, JAPAN on May 17, 2008 at 01:30 AM
Personally I think this is outrageous. Its not the breed, it the way the dog was raised or is treated. I have had many pittbulls and i wouldnt want nothing else around my family, very loyal and loving dogs. Just because they have a bad record doesnt mean stopping the breed will silve the problem. Its like the argument between Nature -VS- Nurture, which i personally beleive anything is born a blank slate, i could be wrong. Its sad that instead of having the dogs treated fairly instead of chained to a tree for a majority of the day, you think the solution is to ban the breed. Imagine if we banned people for their negative history depending on their race. America is definitly going down the drain quicker and quicker everyday.

Posted by: Tina Location: Greenville on May 17, 2008 at 12:33 AM
I wish to clarify a comment in my original post. When I say that that fault in dog bites lies with the human my intention was not to blame the victim of a dog bite, but to point out that lack of education and irresponsible owners contribute to situations that puts both humans and their pets at risk.

Posted by: Kristen Location: CT on May 16, 2008 at 11:47 PM
My best friend has a pit. She treats him well and her infant plays with him and lays on him. He had always been very friendly,would lick you to death if anything. But one day I was visiting with my parents and he almost took my dad's hand off! It was very scary, the dog just freaked out. We don't know why it happened if it was a smell he didn't like or if he heard something.. but it happened. It can happen with the sweetest of pits(as it can with any other breed)But now I can't trust him, and dogs sense that. Maybe it would be good to have owners register their dogs? We do it here. It's not expensive. That way people who are trouble and treat their dogs badly would be monitored..

Posted by: Tina Location: Greenville on May 16, 2008 at 10:03 PM
If pit bulls are being used to guard for people involved in illegal activities, then perhaps the police should focus on cleaning up and arresting more of these individuals engaged in illegal activities instead of banning a breed of dog whose biggest crime is being too popular with the wrong element. Breed banning is no different than racial profiling and both are outrageous and unfair. In addition, eastern NC needs to outlaw chaining a dog. Many states have already done so. Any dog left on a chain 24/7 loses its socialization and it is very unfortunate that the dog that is most frequently seen on the end of a chain is a pit bull. Punish the deed, not the breed. In many cases, the fault in dog bites lies with the human - not the dog.

Posted by: commonsense on May 16, 2008 at 08:49 PM
You got to be kidding. Ban the punks that own the poor dogs, not the dogs. Ban the drug trade in East Kinston.

Posted by: Josh pit bull owner/breeder on May 16, 2008 at 08:29 PM
Punish the deed not the bred, pit bulls are loyal loving companions, any animal with teeth can be thought to be aggressive, People kill others, does that mean we all should be punished.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Kinston on May 16, 2008 at 07:49 PM
I live in Kinston myself and own two pit mixes and a pit and none of them would ever dream of hurting anyone. I raise my dogs around children. They sleep with children and me and my fiance. I think it is outrageous to ban a certain bred because of other people stupidty. Like everyone has said, punish the deed, not the breed. Pit bulls were bred to fight yes, but if reaise and trained properly then you will have a fun loving dog. My dogs are protectors and do alert when someone is in my yard that is not suppose to be. I have never had a complaint out of them yet. I think if we have to register our pits then the city needs to pay for it. It is compltely crazy. People should really look into the breed before trying to ban it. I know a couple of breeders that breed them and none of their pits are aggressive at all. I think you will have more problems out of people if you ban the breed. Once again, PUNISH THE DEED, NOT THE BREED.

Posted by: Spring Location: Vanceboro on May 16, 2008 at 06:22 PM
I agree with you Mike West that it would help people with their dogs and ALSO help others learn about them. People that have never owned a pit know NOTHING about what kind of dog they can be. You cannot truly learn about a situation if you are never in that situation yourself.

Posted by: Mike West Location: Tarboro on May 16, 2008 at 06:03 PM
Why don't towns offer a educational class to help train and to spot bad traits. Also train students to spot signs of abuse and neglect. Developing a more aware community about a untrained dogs/pets and their dangers than a dog/pet that have been neglected and hasn't had the human contact that is need to have a balanced dog/pet.

Posted by: Brad Location: Greenville on May 16, 2008 at 05:28 PM
Ban Kinston? There's some real mature people on this thread. The fact that NO ONE can dispute is that pitbulls KILL and mawl more people than any other breed of dog and at a high percentage. There's NO excuse. Period.

Posted by: Jodi & Darrell Chase Location: Trenton, NC on May 16, 2008 at 05:16 PM
Before some of you start running your mouth about the breed maybe you should do your research. Pits were bred to fight other DOGS NOT PEOPLE! We have pits because we love them and we also have 3 small children that our pits sleep in the same bed with at night. They have NEVER offered to harm our children or anyone else for that matter, because we raised our pits the right way. I know some people who have other breeds of dogs such as LABS, rotties, and even the smallest of dogs that I wouldnt let my children near! So Kinston needs to think about what they are doing and maybe the criminals shouldnt be allowed to own DOGS of any breed. If they cant take responsibility for themselves then why should they be allowed pets? It the bad guys like the criminals in Kinston that are giving our friends a bad name.

Posted by: tb Location: Greenville on May 16, 2008 at 04:45 PM
Good info on pitts http://www.workingpitbull.com/aboutpits.htm

Posted by: Anonymous on May 16, 2008 at 04:32 PM
go to www.thetruthaboutpitbulls.com i am no thug, i am no drug dealer, i am no criminal.... i have two pit bulls. I am a healthcare professional and my husband manages a bank. so you stereotype the dog and you stereotype the people who own them... i know people who are far more aggressive and dangerous than the dog. tools.

Posted by: jessica Location: raleigh on May 16, 2008 at 11:55 AM
as with any animal, to be a proper and responsible "owner" you have to take their needs into consideration. you're not going to keep a horse in a linen closet so why chain an energenic dog to a tree? i have 2 dogs, a bull/boxer mix and a cocker spanial and i would have never considered taking them in if i couldn't provide the best enviorment for them. perhaps registering is a grand idea in theory but also citing perple who don't allow their animals the space they need to thrive and be happy might be in order too. not to mention the city could generate alot of funds. and those who need to be taken away, there are rescue agencies that would be thrilled to help. not just pits, but many other different breeds. have the previous owners pay for their lack of concern for their "pets".

Posted by: Linda Location: Greenville on May 16, 2008 at 11:53 AM
Sound like a lot of "bull" to me - it's the owners that you need to address not the breed

Posted by: Maraq Location: T. on May 16, 2008 at 11:46 AM
This is ridiculous. Why should dogs be punished and put to death because owners are irresponsible? How about instead of banning pit bulls you put much harsher punishments on irresponsible pet ownership? People get off with just a slap on the wrist for the most egregious crimes against animals, meanwhile the abused animals are KILLED because somebody was too stupid, mean, or otherwise mentally impaired to raise the dog correctly and now the dog has behavior problems. Give me a break. The people who are responsible for treating animals in this way should be thrown in jail and the key disposed of because people who treat animals badly treat other people badly as well.

Posted by: Andrea Location: Raleigh, NC on May 16, 2008 at 11:35 AM
So I work at an animal hospital, and have been around dogs for my entire life. I have never, ever seen a pit bull react aggressively towards us when we are performing uncomfortable (and sometimes even painful) procedures. I have however seen many other breeds react badly. Nature vs. Nurture. Ban the deed, not the breed.

Posted by: Robin Location: Greenville on May 16, 2008 at 11:24 AM
It's not the dogs, it's the owners'. Every Pitt Bull I know is wonderful, never attempted to bite and always friendly. People need to use common sense and take personal responsibility.

Posted by: Stephanie on May 16, 2008 at 11:24 AM
I have the sweetest pit in the world. She was rescued. She is protective of us, but would NEVER bite anyone! She cuddles and sleeps with us like a human and wrestles with our cat and yorkie. This is so ridiculous. It is ALL how they are raised. I am sure millions of dogs bite people each month but that doesn't get the media attention. The media has put these dogs in a bad light and that sucks. I agree, Kinston should be banned. What good has ever come from that place???

Posted by: Ted Location: Greenville on May 16, 2008 at 10:08 AM
I grew up on a small farm in WV, and I've had lots of dogs in my lifetime. I've had both large and small dogs and I don't remember having even one that was considered mean or vicious. In my humble opinion it is in how the dog was raised. Posted by: ConcernedCitizen Why doesn't NC consider banning Kinston Now that's funny

Posted by: Danielle Location: Jacksonville on May 16, 2008 at 10:06 AM
From the sounds of it, current owners in KInston will be allowed to keep their pets as long as they register them within the 3 month time span. Sounds reasonable to me. A registry would also provide a go to list if an incident should occur involving a pitt. "Banish the deed, not the breed" blah blah blah. Thay is what Pitt owners say to defend the animals that we all have to admit have aggressive traits in their bloodline. The statistics are alarming when it comes to this breed, purebred or mixed. The CDC maintains records on deaths related to dog bites and Pitts top the purebred and mixed breed lists.

Posted by: ConcernedCitizen Location: Winterville on May 16, 2008 at 09:40 AM
Why doesn't NC consider banning Kinston?

Posted by: ANGIE Location: GREENVILLE on May 16, 2008 at 09:24 AM
ITS NOT THE DOGS FAULT. LETS TIE UP THE OWNERS TO A TREE AND OR HOUSE AND SEE HOW LONG THEY WOULD BE CALM AND NICE.

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Posted by: kayeleigh Location: chesapeake, va on May 16, 2008 at 08:53 AM
i have 3 pit bulls, and 2 of which are in my yard on chains. they are not aggressive in any sort---quite loving actually. local kids with disabilities love our dogs because they are so affectionate. the reason for chaining our dogs in our fenced in yard is because people around here are hungry for some entertainment---my babies aren't being stolen from my back yard, and they won't be banning them. it's all in how you raise the darn dog. my dogs think they're people...and not the moronic kind of people that use the breed for anything other than a family pet. the problem with these "pit bull attacks" is that most aren't even pure bred. if you were given a line up of 20 dogs and told that only 1 was a pit bull, but they all resembled each other, could you pick out the true pit? that's the problem with our society is any dog that has aggression is allegedly a pit bull these days. WRONG. do some research, ignorant council-people....

Posted by: sophie Location: nc on May 16, 2008 at 07:18 AM
There is also the odd bad poodle, shih tzu, japanese chin...are you going to ban them as well? What about bad law enforcement officers....there are a few bad weeds there too...if one follows the news on this site....does that mean we ban all law enforcement officers? Banning does not solve the problem of people not taking proper care of their animals....education and enforcement of stricter bylaws do. Silly Silly Silly people.

Posted by: WHY Location: Somewhere in NC on May 16, 2008 at 05:53 AM
from reading the article, they are not banning Pitbulls, just in the city limits. I agress some people do use dogs as a guard for criminal act. However they use them for protection also. I was looking that animal planet a couple of months ago and I want to say Chicago has a law where no one under the age of 12 is allowed to have a pitbull in their possession. When you chain a dog and confined it to one area they will attact. Dogs are very territorial.

Posted by: Rick Location: Washington on May 15, 2008 at 11:32 PM
Before people with limited knowledge panic or play politics, and shoot from the hip at this issue, lets involve world class animal behavior specialists to help us determine if the dogs and/or their owners should be banned or put down. Has it really worked other places? How is it going to be enforced, and will politicians really have the resources and courage to severely punish offenders and maybe change their behaviors?

Posted by: Anonymous on May 15, 2008 at 11:17 PM
BLAME THE OWNER NOT THE DOG

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Posted by: Anonymous Location: Greenville on May 15, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Kinston (and everywhere) should ban the chaining of dogs, not the pit bull. Chaining will cause any dog to be aggressive.

Posted by: Bandanaman247 on May 15, 2008 at 11:01 PM
WAY 2 GO Kinston !!Now maybe North Carolina will follow and open a season on these aggressive dogs.Keep up the GOOD WORK

Posted by: Sheena Location: nj on May 15, 2008 at 10:57 PM
I think this is STUPIED, you should not ban Pit bulls, Ban the owners from haveing dog's at all. Pit Bull's are not mean dogs at all, its the owners who make them mean...Don't Ban the Breed because of Stupied people...

Posted by: Anonymous on May 15, 2008 at 10:54 PM
I don't want to hear that it's not the breed, it's the owner. Anyone who has any knowledge of dogs knows that these dogs were specifically bred to fight as far back as Roman times. They were also bred to see a task through til the death. They are a very aggressive breed. People choose the dogs they do because of specific personality traits specific to that particular breed. So how can people say it's not the breed when the dogs are bred for certain traits? They are no. 1 for dog bite fatalities, especially with children. Also, unlike most other breeds, they inflict more injury because they clamp down, lock their jaws and hold and shake and will not release. Do your research. And just because hasn't ever hurt anyone doesn't mean that it never will. Most people are bitten by their own animals or one they are familiar with. I'm not saying that some responsibility doesn't lie with some of the owners but in general terms this is an aggressive breed that should be approached with caution.

Posted by: Spring Location: Vanceboro on May 15, 2008 at 10:34 PM
This reminds me of when the jews were persecuted for being Jews, sound familiar? These dogs are being put down banned out of homes and put up in shelters for what??? being a pitbull?? What has this turned into? Ingnorance is what causes such tragedys as this....God help us all when these people turn on us!

Posted by: Spring Location: Vanceboro on May 15, 2008 at 10:21 PM
This really saddens and angers me, though I do not live in Kinston if this goes over there it will spread to the rest of the state. most people are afraid of what they do not know about and well frankly people need to research pitbulls and understand that ANY dog if provoked will ATTACK! So does this mean that we should ban all dogs? Come on people these dogs do not have a voice but we do! Why do alot of us sit back and let this kind of thing happen in our communities its time we all stand up for whats right!

Posted by: Chris Location: Greenville on May 15, 2008 at 09:38 PM
I am a proud owner of a Pit Bull. I honestly think that these bans should not single out pit bulls. My dog has never hurt anybody and loves to meet new people every day. What I dont think people understand is that its not the dog, its the owner. Instead of banning the dogs, or using deadly force on the dogs, arrest the owners. How many times have you see a little dog thats an ankle bitter. Or another breed that is very visious. Its not just pit bulls. Dog owners, we need to stand up against these kind of laws and prove to people that its not the breed, its the owner. And always punish the deed, not the breed.

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